President Obama and congressional leaders from both parties opened a new round of deficit-reduction talks Thursday aimed at breaking a stalemate over raising the nation’s debt limit.
The White House meeting, which began shortly after 11 a.m., came as Obama pressed lawmakers to consider a far-reaching debt-reduction plan that would force Democrats to accept major changes to Social Security and Medicare in exchange for Republican support for fresh tax revenue.
Before sitting down for the negotiations with Obama, Vice President Biden, top aides and Democratic lawmakers, House Republican leaders emphasized Thursday morning that progress toward as much as $2 trillion in deficit savings has already been made. But they also renewed their pledge to oppose the inclusion of any tax increases in a final deal.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), one of the participants in the talks, said Republicans will insist that spending cuts in a deficit-reduction package “exceed the amount of the debt ceiling increase.”
Administration officials say the ceiling on the amount the federal government can borrow must be raised to avert a potentially disastrous default.
The deficit-reduction talks led by Biden over the past two months “were premised on how we can find common ground,” Cantor told a Capitol Hill news conference. But he added: “I’ll make it clear, as I did then, that we as Republicans are not going to support tax increases.”
Boehner, who has met privately with Obama twice since Republicans walked out of the bipartisan talks late last month, said that “the conversations have gone on for weeks, both in the Biden group and between the president and myself, but there is no agreement.”
The remarks ahead of Thursday’s meeting indicated that GOP opposition to tax increases in the debt-limit discussions has not softened — despite a statement by Cantor on Wednesday that Republicans would consider closing some tax loopholes if such a move were offset by tax cuts elsewhere, as well as a new willingness on the part of the White House to consider major changes to Social Security and Medicare as part of a far-reaching deficit deal. House Republicans on Thursday reiterated their support for reform of such entitlement programs.
House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) told reporters before the meeting with Obama that “comprehensive tax reform, both on the corporate side and the personal side,” is under discussion as the negotiators look for ways to close loopholes while also lowering tax rates for businesses and individuals. But he reiterated Republican opposition to tax increases on those he said are the economy’s main job creators.
In addition to Boehner and Cantor, the GOP participants in the talks included Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (Ariz.). Democratic lawmakers taking part included Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.), Senate Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin (Ill.), House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) and House Minority Whip Steny H. Hoyer (Md.). Also at the table were administration officials Jacob J. Lew, director of the Office of Management and Budget; Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner; White House Chief of Staff William M. Daley; and Gene B. Sperling, director of the National Economic Council.
Obama planned to argue at the meeting that a rare consensus has emerged about the size and scope of the nation’s budget problems and that policymakers should seize the moment to take dramatic action, officials said.
As part of his pitch, Obama is proposing significant reductions in Medicare spending and for the first time is offering to tackle the rising cost of Social Security, according to people in both parties with knowledge of the proposal. The move marks a major shift for the White House and could present a direct challenge to Democratic lawmakers who have vowed to protect health and retirement benefits from the assault on government spending.
Several Senate Democrats reacted cautiously Thursday to news of the president’s overture, indicating they had few details. But some expressed hesitancy about including Social Security in the debate over deficit-reduction.
“I think when the president does a deal, he ought to talk to the Democrats,” said Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.) . “Before we start tinkering with Social Security, I want to know how we’re going to straighten out the tax code.”
Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, said he has never believed that Social Security trims should be used to reduce the debt.
“Any savings from Social Security should be used to extend the solvency of Social Security,” Conrad said.
But new offers from the president and Boehner represent “significant developments,” Conrad added. “I’m very encouraged by what I hear,” he said.
“Obviously, there will be some Democrats who don’t believe we need to do entitlement reform. But there seems to be some hunger to do something of some significance,” said a Democratic official familiar with the administration’s thinking. “These moments come along at most once a decade. And it would be a real mistake if we let it pass us by.”
Rather than roughly $2 trillion in savings, the White House is now seeking a plan that would slash more than $4 trillion from annual budget deficits over the next decade, stabilize borrowing, and defuse the biggest budgetary time bombs that are set to explode as the cost of health care rises and the nation’s population ages.
That would represent a major legislative achievement, but it would also put Obama and GOP leaders at odds with major factions of their own parties. While Democrats would be asked to cut social-safety-net programs, Republicans would be asked to raise taxes, perhaps by letting tax breaks for the nation’s wealthiest households expire on schedule at the end of next year.
Privately, some congressional Democrats were alarmed by the president’s proposal, which could include adjusting the measure of inflation used to determine Social Security payouts. But others described it as primarily a bargaining strategy intended to demonstrate Obama’s willingness to compromise and highlight the Republican refusal to raise taxes.
Obama has already spoken to Boehner about the possibility of building support for a more ambitious debt-reduction plan, according to people with knowledge of those talks, who, like others quoted in this article, spoke on the condition of anonymity to shed light on private negotiations. The two discussed various options for overhauling the tax code and cutting entitlement spending, but they reached no agreement.
The administration argues that lawmakers would also get an important victory to sell to voters in 2012. “The fiscal good has to outweigh the pain,” said a Democratic official familiar with the discussions.
It is not clear whether that argument can prevail on Capitol Hill. Thursday’s meeting at the White House — an attempt by Obama to break the impasse that halted debt-reduction talks two weeks ago — provides a critical opportunity for leaders in both parties to say how far they’re willing to go to restrain government borrowing as the clock ticks toward an Aug. 2 deadline for raising the debt limit.
Asked to comment, Boehner spokesman Michael Steel would say only that “there are no tax increases on the table.”
Meanwhile, another senior Republican on Wednesday signaled a new openness to raising taxes— at least for selected special interests. Cantor told reporters that he is now willing to consider Democratic demands to end tax breaks for corporations, hedge-fund managers and owners of corporate jets, so long as the final deal does not raise tax rates or overall federal tax collections.
“If the president wants to talk loopholes, we’ll be glad to talk loopholes,” Cantor said at his weekly roundtable with reporters. “We’ve said all along that preferences in the code aren’t something that helps economic growth overall. But listen, we’re not for any proposal that increases taxes, and any type of discussion should be coupled with offsetting tax cuts somewhere else.”
Among the options for cutting taxes are a number of proposals that should appeal to Democrats, said Cantor spokesman Brad Dayspring. They include a White House proposal to temporarily reduce payroll taxes for employers, an idea aimed at propping up the sputtering economy. Democrats also routinely support an annual effort to restrain the alternative minimum tax, which would otherwise strike heavily at households in high-cost urban areas that tend to vote Democratic.
Even as Cantor cracked the door open, however, McConnell slammed it shut, reiterating the long-standing Republican position that policymakers should consider eliminating tax breaks only as part of a comprehensive effort to rewrite the code and lower income tax rates.
“To sort of cherry-pick items in the context of this current negotiation with the White House strikes me as pretty challenging,” McConnell told reporters, adding that raising taxes on any sector of the economy could trigger job losses at a time when the unemployment rate hovers around 9 percent. “We want to tackle deficit reduction in a way that doesn’t exacerbate unemployment.”
Democrats, in any case, dismissed Cantor’s offer, saying it makes no sense to cut taxes in a package whose primary goal is to reduce borrowing.
“It is like taking one step forward and then two steps back,” said Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.). “The point isn’t to get rid of these loopholes simply to pay for new tax breaks elsewhere. It’s to do it in a way that contributes to the reduction of the debt.”
With Obama offering major savings from entitlement programs, Republican intransigence on taxes looms as the biggest sticking point in the debt negotiations. Policymakers are rushing to craft a debt-reduction deal big enough to persuade reluctant lawmakers to approve an increase in the legal limit on government borrowing, which now stands at $14.3 trillion.
The national debt hit the limit in mid-May. Unless Congress acts before Aug. 2, Treasury Secretary Geithner has said, the government will begin to default on its obligations for the first time in history.
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Source: The Washington Post